Thanks NRA

[WakeUpSheeple]

Boy Dies From Uzi Shot At 'Pumpkin Shoot'
A Westfield, Mass., boy, 8, is dead after accidentally shooting himself in the head with an Uzi at an annual shooting event.
This is what happens when good people get behind a fundamentally good cause and won't budge an inch on common sence changes without screaming, "there coming for our guns".
I want to keep my guns but the NRA commercials I've seen are as non-factual as the McStain / Qualin commercials. Fear-mongering special interest. I hate it when they are on my side. What a quandry. What's a principled person to do?
http://www.wftv.com/video/17819188/index.html?source=CNN

[bigfatfurrytexan]

you can't blame the NRA for the stupidity of an individual.

our constitution doesn't make room for stupidity.

[sparky-4]

it was an accident, thats all. Terrible and irresponsible but an accident

anybody who would thank the NRA in a manner as that, directed towards that terrible accident would also say, ...

"Thanks General Motors for the guy who died in the truck you made when it rolled over on the free way.

Thanks Burger King for making my kids obese


what did I say about personal responsibility and self governing in a different thread earlier.... nobody these days even knows what that is.
They want to blame anybody but the responsible party

[hockeymonkey]

It definitely was an avoidable incident that did not have to happen. Shame on them for handing the gun to that boy. Especially since the boys father is a doctor..

[800trunkerman]

Stupid lack of parental supervision and proper instruction on handling a firearm. Right on, Sparky & BFFT.

[WakeUpSheeple]

That should be called criminal not stupid or an accident..
Not a hunting rifle. It was an uzi.
And I don't think uzi's where addressed in the constitution.
Especially in the hands of a child of 8.

[bigfatfurrytexan]

That should be called criminal not stupid or an accident..
Not a hunting rifle. It was an uzi.
And I don't think uzi's where addressed in the constitution.
Especially in the hands of a child of 8.

i cannot disagree with this at all.

Uzi's should not be available to the general public.

[dngnb8]

i cannot disagree with this at all.

Uzi's should not be available to the general public.

I dont think they are.

But NRA isnt responsible for this either way. Way to turn a tragedy into politics through obtuse blame.

[bigfatfurrytexan]

I dont think they are.

But NRA isnt responsible for this either way. Way to turn a tragedy into politics through obtuse blame.

oh, i don't blame the NRA for the laws of our land. I blame congress for that.

The NRA is an organization that wants to ensure 2nd amendment rights. i cannot thank them enough for that. it is up to congress to decide what is constitutional and what is sane.

[hockeymonkey]

It is common sense. However, much like the driver who didn't buckle his 2 year old in a car seat went to the Town and Country to pump gas, turned his back on the toddler, kid got out, got run over by a suburban... no charges were pressed against him because of the grief factor. This is common sense. I am a card carrying member of the NRA. I don't pick up somehting I have no respect or knowledge for, nonetheless hand it to a child. You must respect the weapon. Good grief!

[bigfatfurrytexan]

It is common sense. However, much like the driver who didn't buckle his 2 year old in a car seat went to the Town and Country to pump gas, turned his back on the toddler, kid got out, got run over by a suburban... no charges were pressed against him because of the grief factor. This is common sense. I am a card carrying member of the NRA. I don't pick up somehting I have no respect or knowledge for, nonetheless hand it to a child. You must respect the weapon. Good grief!

yup...personal responsibility. something we are lacking nationally.

[sparky-4]

That should be called criminal not stupid or an accident..
Not a hunting rifle. It was an uzi.
And I don't think uzi's where addressed in the constitution.
Especially in the hands of a child of 8.

"A well regulated Militia necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear single shot arms, shall not be infringed"'

yeah.. it's in there............NOT


again, I repost...

Self governing
Self reliance
Personal liberty
Personal responsibility

needed, but not taught today

[dngnb8]

We are always looking to blame. Sometimes and accident is just that.

That being said, when we blame, we typically dont blame who is repsonsible, and use an event to further political gain, opinion, philosophy. I think that is just as bad as the accident.

[bigfatfurrytexan]

We are always looking to blame. Sometimes and accident is just that.

That being said, when we blame, we typically dont blame who is repsonsible, and use an event to further political gain, opinion, philosophy. I think that is just as bad as the accident.

too bad we can't rep a post on this forum.

[dngnb8]

too bad we can't rep a post on this forum.

Im not a rep person. I would rather you post, then rep.

[800trunkerman]

That should be called criminal not stupid or an accident..
Not a hunting rifle. It was an uzi.
And I don't think uzi's where addressed in the constitution.
Especially in the hands of a child of 8.


How about criminal AND stupid?

[bigfatfurrytexan]

criminal would be allowing your 8 year old to wander a weapons expo unsupervised. and that would be stupid.

[Patriotic Texan]

40 Reasons For Gun Control
"It's amazing what one has to believe to believe in gun control"

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense -- give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p.125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arm" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons", but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles", because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, finger printing, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."

23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."

27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.

30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over hand guns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.

37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.

39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

40. Handgun Control, Inc. says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

[sparky-4]

PT
glad to see another person with some sense on here.:D
This board has attracted every left wing Marxist in Midland and a few actually in Abilene.:eek:

[bigfatfurrytexan]

that is a great post, PT. I think i know who you are...:) If you are, WELCOME ABOARD!!!